Vidiot - good point - this explains why they are so keen to get faders to DA or acknowledge they don't accept the doctrine so they can be disfellowshipped. I think they would classify them as shunning evaders - to use tax compliance terminology.
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Disfellowshipping works!
by hoser inthe key ensuring compliance in an authoritarian system is to have a penalty that creates an emotion of dread in the majority of the populace.
the irs and cra create the fear of being audited, and in fact audit and make examples of a minority.
this ensures that the majority file their income taxes in an orderly and scrupulous manner.
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Who will win the premier league (footy or 'soccer') mine is liverpool fc
by Jon Preston inwhat a year it had been!!!
liverpool fc (forgive me for this losts one-sidedness) have gone leaps and bounds and luck to reach secknd spot but without games in hand to man city....i must say an air or cl against ac milan is in the air.
and lfc have a real shot at winning.
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I am a Spurs fan but recognise they have no chance (it should have been Spurs' year but Levy squandered a huge windfall on players neither of his managers have used all season - what a waste) of even making the Champions League places. I think it is hard to see Chelsea not winning, much as it pains me to say so.
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Why Jehovah's Witnesses qualify as a Hate Group
by Watchtower-Free inthey use vile hate speech towards the victims of the cult who leave and speak out to warn others .. .
words like.
haters of god.
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Outlaw is right - HG11 is entitled to his opinion however misguided and delusional. The WBTS declared war on Apostates, so it is not surprising that the Apostates fight back. However, one of our purposes is to try to start a dialogue with people like HG11 to help him to realise TTATT. He is a victim of the GB like everyone else on JWN, it is just he doesn't realise it yet. We are a support group for victims.
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Disfellowshipping works!
by hoser inthe key ensuring compliance in an authoritarian system is to have a penalty that creates an emotion of dread in the majority of the populace.
the irs and cra create the fear of being audited, and in fact audit and make examples of a minority.
this ensures that the majority file their income taxes in an orderly and scrupulous manner.
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jgnat and sarahsmile - what you describe is known in my business as DETERRENCE
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Disfellowshipping works!
by hoser inthe key ensuring compliance in an authoritarian system is to have a penalty that creates an emotion of dread in the majority of the populace.
the irs and cra create the fear of being audited, and in fact audit and make examples of a minority.
this ensures that the majority file their income taxes in an orderly and scrupulous manner.
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And those who get reinstated are doubly trapped because they now have a huge investment in not being disfellowshipped again as they know the pain of being disfellowshipped. Which is why they encourage reinstatement - they get the claws in deeper.
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Subliminal Messages Dispensed Through Memes and Imagery
by Faithful Witness inthis might sound like an abstract idea, but i would love to hear your thoughts.
there seem to be so many questions that can not be answered in their literature and research materials.
there are things they just "know," even though they are often unable to find where it was published in printed material.. how many of their beliefs are being changed, shifted and spread throughout the congregation, through use of comments alone?
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jgnat - thank you for that link to the article about iconography - it confirmed something I had suspected. Thoise images bypass the reasoning function and embed themselves in the sub-conscious, where they continue to exercise a powerful influence.
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How do Bible believers get around this question.... ??
by Phizzy inbible believers of the literalist persuasion like the wt and other weird fundies actually believe the bible stories and chronology and therefore believe that adam and eve were the first humans.. those of us of european ancestry all contain within our dna a percentage of neanderthal dna.
the neanderthals died out 30,000 years ago.. how will the wt and other bible literalists (an untenable position by the way) get around the facts ?.
i suppose by simply ignoring the facts, as with the flood of noah and a myriad other things ?.
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There is no limit to what someone suffering from cognitive dissonance will clutch onto to make the cognitive dissonance go away. Logic, reason and common sense do not feature.
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Oscar Pistorious
by LouBelle inis anyone here following what is happening with the trial in south africa.
what are your thoughts?
how are the media handling this?
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He did it - his story is not credible. He is putting on a good performance though.
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How exactly is the Holy Spirit 'directing' the WT?
by keyser soze init seems pretty impotent to me if it is.. let's assume, for the sake of argument, that they are merely 'spirit-directed', as opposed to 'inspired'.
and let's assume that there is even a difference(other than semantics) to begin with.
neither claim is validated by the end result.
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They are schizophrenic. They are inspired by the Holy Spirit when they want the r&f not to question what they publish but they are imperfect humans when their errors become too obvious. Classic case of having your cake and eating it.
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I did it !!!!
by snare&racket in7 years ago i started on a path i had long ago given up on as impossible.
i met with my elders and told them i could not justify carrying on as a jw.
i went and got my high school qualifications and my higher education diploma (a levels with distinction) in just 12 months.
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Great Achievement